Pedro Noguera: "The mistake we've made is to blame teachers." Credit: PROVIDED PHOTO

Pedro Noguera began a Ted Talk presentation a few years ago by posing a question parents, teachers, and policy makers have been asking for years: “Why it is that educating children in America has become so hard?”

Noguera, a researcher and UCLA education professor, gives a sharp response: “We have made this much more difficult than it should be,” Noguera says.

The problem is not that we don’t know how to teach children, Noguera says. There’s plenty of research showing what works with every type of child, regardless of their needs.

“The problem is the way we treat children, the types of schools we’ve created, and the policies we’ve enacted that drive education,” he says. “We have lots of evidence that what we’ve been doing as a nation isn’t working.”

Noguera is the author and co-author of several books, including “City Schools and the American Dream: Reclaiming the Promise of Public Education” and “Excellence through Equity.” The latter is the theme of a community event hosted by the University of Rochester on Thursday, June 1, where Noguera will be the keynote speaker.

The event, which will be held at East High School at 6 p.m., is free and open to the public.

Much of Noguera’s research has focused on how social and economic conditions impact learning. He’s devoted particular attention to children living in poor neighborhoods, mostly children of color enrolled in low-performing schools. Though he agrees that many of these schools in cities all across the country are failing, particularly at educating young black males, he parts company with the education reformers who believe that poverty doesn’t matter and schools should be able to do the job.

“No Child Left Behind did a good job of illuminating where there were problems in public education, exposing the gaps in achievement that we now know are pervasive,” Noguera said in a recent telephone interview. “But what it didn’t do was support the schools on how to close those gaps.”

The strongest indicator of how a child will do in school is family income, he said.

And, he said: “When you combine family income with parental education โ€“ how much education the parents have โ€“ that’s the strongest driver of student outcome.”

So instead of asking how we hold teachers accountable or how we close the achievement gap, we should be asking different questions, Noguera said.

“How do we create schools where a child’s race or class does not predict how well they will do?” he said. “I think the mistake we’ve made is to blame teachers and not look at whether those schools have the adequate resources to meet the needs of their students.”

Put another way: How do we create equity for every student and every school? “The only thing that is going to lead to more equity is high quality schools,” he said.

In “Urban Schools and the Black Male ‘Challenge,'” one of his papers, he debunks the idea, a favorite of reformers, that schools alone can mitigate the impact poverty has on children through rigorous instruction.

He cites a 10-year study from the University of Chicago that examined the typical No Child Left Behind reform formula: closing failing schools and making massive investments in technology and professional development. The researchers found that “problems related to poverty โ€“ crime, substance abuse, child neglect, unmet health needs, housing shortages, interpersonal violence and so forth โ€“ were largely ignored,” Noguera writes. And the results, in the form of academic improvement, were limited.

Noguera isn’t anti-charter school, and he knows that Rochester has some high-performing charter schools. But on average, the student outcomes for most charter schools are not that different from traditional public schools, he said in the telephone interview.

“The kids that are most disadvantaged often aren’t in those high-performing charter schools,” he said. “You have kids that are homeless and in foster care, and these kids require more services.”

And if charter schools continue to proliferate at their current rate, they will leave traditional public schools with the most expensive and challenging students to educate, he said. Poor children living in poor neighborhoods are still going to be segregated by race and class, he said.

“The effects of poverty show up at childbirth and even before, when the mother is pregnant,” Noguera said. “We can support schools with a comprehensive array of services that include things like mentors, social workers, parent education, and other supports.”

The Harlem Children’s Zone in New York City, with its wrap-around care for low-income children and families, is the best model of this, he said.

“It’s shown that you get much better results with these supports,” he said. “What I think we need is a more comprehensive approach, where we’re thinking of partnering not just with universities, but hospitals, non-profit agencies, and churches to help schools address some of the issues around poverty that schools can’t handle by themselves.”

Noguera’s talk coincides with the Rochester school board’s decision to enter into a partnership with SUNY Geneseo to manage School 19. The relationship would be similar to the one the board entered into with the UR’s Warner School of Education and East High. The hope for the partnerships is that by bringing the right combination of resources into the schools, some of which specifically address poverty, student performance will improve.

The challenge for Rochester, Noguera said, “is figuring out how to do this for the greatest number of schools.”

Noguera isn’t timid talking about the higher costs involved in educating poor children in comparison to suburban children from middle and upper-income households. It does cost more money, he said.

“On the face of it, it would seem like Rochester is well-financed,” he said. “It has higher than average teacher salaries and per-pupil spending that is much higher than in many other cities. However, most of the money is not going to issues that address poverty. There is still a shortage of social workers, and there’s still a shortage of high-quality pre-school and after-school programs.”

It’s great that organizations like the UR can bring some of its resources to a school like East High, Noguera said. But the issue that the Rochester school district is facing is one that many districts across the country still end up facing: what about the other schools?

“You know we live in a country that’s still rich,” Noguera said. “If we’re creative about how we make resources available to our neediest schools, we could do a much better job of helping to compensate for the effects of poverty.”

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5 replies on “Creating high-quality schools”

  1. I wonder if his studies address whether these students are coming from single or two parent households.

  2. Thanks for announcing this event, in advance. I hope to attend.
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    Timing is everything, they say. In schools, time marches on, and poor students fall behind. In school, time is like a river, that keeps moving, forward and students who can’t keep up with the flow, get lost.

    In fact, students may not have to fall behind, if they can take the time to practice and catch up. Provisions can be made to encourage more routine remedial practice.

    Fortunately, with computers and the web, we have many tools for practice, but they may not be used by the students who need this help…

    Timing is everything!

    I say, “EASY does it. ” Use devices like computers to assist students.
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    http://www.SavingSchools.org

  3. Do we really want to improve the schools, destroy poverty and correct the myriad of problems the city has? History has shown the answer to be a resounding NO! It’s all about creating these power positions for liberals. Highly educated “experts” who have made tons of money destroying the lives that they purport to be helping.

    Will the residents of the City of Rochester ever wake up? Do you know the definition of insanity? Rochester has been electing the same people to office for over 60 years now. The same way of thinking for 60 years. Things keep getting worse. Insane,

  4. The only way to measure whether any approach works is to compare outcomes using the same students from year to year. As the writer says, the greatest predictor of Academic success is family income. I suspect that many attempts to rescue failing schools simply shuffle the lowest performing students to other schools and create magnet programs that attract students (and parents) that are motivated. Test scores increase but other District schools decline. The Consultants can cite the increased scores at the school they worked on to sell their program.
    Poverty will not decrease until the Entitlement programs that Foster it are changed .I see little chance of this changing as the poor have become a reliable Democratic Party voting bloc.

  5. Like many well-meaning people, Professor Noguera is at times correct, but not for the reasons he suggests and that is why his methods will not produce results any more than the efforts of UR or Geneseo. All of these efforts answer a lack of demand with more supply.

    Nogueras approach (like nearly every approach we see in school improvement) will fail due to lack of demand. Lack of demand for the educational product is continuously answered with perceived improvements in supply. When there is still a lack of demand after the 50th iteration, we get another design aimed at supply.

    The demand shortage is evidenced by the lack of desire to either pay for the product or to work to achieve what the product requires. When students manifest demand limits, schools statistically point to data that suggests that what students want is wrong. Schools dont supply what students want, they tell students what they think they ought to want! It reminds me of Dr. Seuss constantly offering green eggs and ham.

    Of course It is up to adults to let students know that there is a substantial earning differential with college degrees and that a strong high school program can prepare them for that. This is where Professor Noguera is correct. College educated parents often do provide demand.

    But sometimes adults are misguiding students. Adults should not be dishonest or uninformed enough to suggest that state bare minimum requirements to graduate high school (ushered in by nearly every superintendent in the state to pad their own stats) are actually inadequate preparation for university level programs.

    After deceptively poor preparation, many Schools encourage students to graduate with $100+K in debt to get diplomas, some of which are completely unmarketable. That is irresponsible.

    So how do we change Demand? Im going to make some bold claim: Graduation rates would rise to over 80 % if schools permanently expelled the students who are only there to threaten, disrupt and break laws. If students want to learn to make an honorable living working manually, LET THEM! Private schools have 2 major advantages: 1) Demand, as evidenced by a willingness to pay for the product, and 2) Ability to remove criminals and elements that lead to a bad school environment. This includes trade schools.

    Did you just ask what will happen to the 20% ? That is the normal reaction. Rather than to stipulate that 80 +% graduation rate would be a great improvement, we stick to our under 50% with some specious sense of virtue that hasnt helped anyone.

    Stop pretending the answer to poor demand is more supply. Answer the real demand with adequate supply.

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