Carrie Remis: parents would get involved in schools if they had the means and the opportunity. Credit: PHOTO BY MARK CHAMBERLAIN

Few people not directly employed by the Rochester school district are as nimble at navigating local policies, labor agreements, and state education law as Carrie Remis.

In 2006, Remis co-founded the Rochester Fund for Educational Accountability, an all-volunteer organization that provided technical assistance and training to parent groups on federal education law (the group has since dissolved).

And in 2009, she founded the Parent Power Project to help parent organizations develop the skills to break through school bureaucracies.

Her efforts have earned her friends in high places. They’ve also earned her some enemies.

Critics say Remis peddles a particular brand of support for parents popular with politicians and the business community. And they say she’s anti-teacher and anti-union — little more than another white do-gooder in a largely black and brown school district who doesn’t really understand the communities she’s trying to help.

But Remis has no problem defending herself. She is bright, contemplative, and not afraid to speak her mind. When Lovely Warren launched her mayoral campaign last year, Remis was at her side. And she was one of Warren’s campaign education policy advisors.

When Rochester Teachers Association President Adam Urbanski challenged Warren to a debate on education issues, the Warren campaign offered Remis instead. The debate never took place, but Remis says she was up for the job.

From day one, Warren seized the education platform by offering an alternative to the city’s failing school system. It’s not surprising that Warren recently appointed Remis to co-chair her Early Learning Council. The other co-chair is Joanne Larson, an education professor at the University of Rochester’s Warner Graduate School.

Warren wants to engage the community in a robust conversation about Rochester’s dire educational situation, Remis says.

“She’s got a bolder vision of family involvement,” she says.

Empowering students and parents is a guiding principle shared by Warren, Larson, and Remis.

Larson recently published “Radical Equality in Education, Starting Over in US Schooling.” She takes the position that the current public school model is broken and obsolete, and that a new model involving greater student and parent participation for the purpose of learning rather than strictly job prep is needed.

Remis says the changes needed in Rochester’s schools and in many urban districts could have come sooner if parents had the resources. But in many urban districts, she says, parents lack the time, education, and resources to comb budgets, policies, and curriculum the way their suburban peers can.

The power dynamics are different, Remis says, and for urban parents, engagement is frequently relegated to volunteering as lunchroom monitors and other less important tasks.

Arming parents with knowledge does not make her anti-teacher or anti-union, Remis says. And she says she won’t make scapegoats of the teachers union or its president, Adam Urbanski.

“First of all, I come from a family of public educators,” she says. “But I do think there is a difference between teachers and union leaders. I would never say teachers shouldn’t be represented. I know the history.”

But Remis took a much more strident tone when she addressed a hearing of the New York State Senate Education Commission last year. She accused unions of stifling education reform.

“Special interests — namely the New York State United Teachers and their surrogates — are strategically taking advantage of parents who feel excluded, amplifying our concerns and distorting the issues,” she said.

Remis says she was trying to stress that union representatives frequently wrap their public conversations in terms of what’s best for students and parents, though they represent neither. And parents need to have their own autonomous voice, she says.

Remis says there needs to be greater transparency to labor agreements, and that parents and the public should have some say in what goes into them. Decision-making between the superintendent and union bosses behind closed doors has diluted what should be a more democratic process, she says.

Though Remis doesn’t advocate for the elimination of tenure, she says the standards for awarding it are low and uneven. That keeps younger teachers from developing into strong professionals, she says.

The combination of tenure and seniority, which allows senior teachers to displace newer teachers, has become a serious management issue for some school administrations.

The really troubling issue facing the city school district — one that illustrates the problems with the current teachers’ contract — is how the district will handle inevitable layoffs as enrollment declines, Remis says.

“It’s just a matter of time,” she says. “When you look at the total overall student-to-teacher ratio, we have the lowest in the state. And that’s not sustainable.”

The current contract would prevent the district from making thoughtful employment decisions in favor of simply cutting the newest teachers, Remis says.

And Remis is particularly bullish on the idea of clarifying talk around accountability and autonomy — favorite buzzwords in the education reformers’ lexicon.

There should be less emphasis on central office governance, she says, while teachers should have more autonomy at the school level to make decisions about everything from hiring to curriculum. It’s an approach that Boston’s Pilot Schools have taken with some success.

In terms of accountability, Remis recommends having student and parent surveys become part of the professional evaluation of teachers and principals. The concept, which is not uncommon in higher education, is permitted under state education law, she says. But it didn’t make it into the local evaluations.

Tests results and graduation rates matter, Remis says, but there’s a difference between how parents and the government view accountability. The government tends to be more data-driven, she says, while parents expect clear and timely communication.

And parents become frustrated when calls go unreturned or their questions get passed from voice mail to voice mail, Remis says.

Sometime in June, the Early Learning Council will make recommendations to Mayor Warren about strengthening parents’ educational hand.

Remis says the council has been focused on pre-k, and figuring out how many children need access to it, since not all enroll through the city school district.

She dismisses the criticism that Warren’s limited influence over the school district means she won’t be able to follow through on a campaign pledge to increase educational opportunities for Rochester’s students and families.

Remis says Warren can fill information gaps, one of the central barriers to meaningful parent involvement, through easy- to-understand guides like school report cards that fully describe each school in the city, including private schools and charters. They would include key information about each school to help parents make the best choices, she says.

Remis also criticizes the district’s cumbersome enrollment process. She says she favors a citywide application that could be used for pre-k on up and even include the city’s public charter schools. That would deflate the narrative of charter parents being more engaged because they’re motivated enough to fill out the applications, Remis says.

Remis says all public schools should compete for students and the funding that goes with them — what some policymakers refer to as backpack funding.

“That shifts the conversation away from whether parents have the motivation to fill out forms, to parents choosing schools that are a good fit,” Remis says. “That shifts the responsibility to the schools to start building those relationships with parents early.”

Perhaps the most important thing Warren can do is apply the necessary political pressure to drive change in Rochester, Remis says. She can use her position to keep education on the front burner — something that Remis says Lieutenant Governor Bob Duffy started to do when he was mayor.

Rochester is stuck in talking mode about its education problems, Remis says, but little discernable action comes out of it.

“If Susan B. Anthony operated this way, I wouldn’t have the right to vote,” she says.

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13 replies on “Can parents save the schools?”

  1. Yes, schools should compete for their students along with the $ allotted for them.
    Schools need longer hours and a lot less vacation time – look at schedule for public schools in China, for example
    Parents need to be involved on some level
    College ed programs badly need revamping.
    Who is admitted to these programs as well as who is hired for teaching positions needs to be reevaluated.
    None of this is about needing more money!

  2. Schools in China don’t compete for students. But why on Earth would we want to be like China anyway? The best schools in the world don’t compete for kids.

  3. They could sell tickets to a Remis-Urbanski debate. They’re both gladiators with their own following.

    Not sure I agree that Warren, Remis and Larson are all on the same page though, Tim. Did you watch the early learning council hearing last week? Larson threw a bomb at charter schools there to give testimony on their interest in starting up preKs, saying the research says they push out at-risk kids. The professor knows best, I guess. She’s been lobbying the Council behind the scenes on it too, giving everyone a lot of agitae in the process.

    Charters are rightly up in arms. There’s been a lot of chatter about whether or not Larson’s pushing her own personal agenda to block them from preK or floating the mayor’s change of heart on charters, (which were central to her campaign). Both explanations seem plausible, given how cozy UR/Warner is with RCSD and how hot the charter debate has become politically.

    Remis is a HARDCORE charter supporter, so either way, she’s got an uphill battle. Hope she’s tougher than she looks.

  4. Remis does not live in the city, does not send her kids to city schools, and does not represent city parents.

  5. @ ROCparent: Parent Power supports parent leaders in 5 districts now and no, I don’t live in all of them. To be clear, we’ve never claimed to represent Rochester parents, Makita, Ernest and Min. Florence are perfectly capable of that. That’s just the old refrain from our critics who are afraid of empowered parents and it hasn’t intimidated us.

    Our work is to support parent organizations with training, information and a national network, essentially do what a district’s parent involvement office should be doing, but doesn’t. We believe that strong, autonomous parent organizations are key to a strong public school system. And we believe in local control: each of our parent groups has a unique set of problems they are working to solve.

  6. You don’t need a Ph.D. to recognize that the government school monopoly is utterly “broken and obsolete”. Everybody knows that. It’s past time to separate school and state. The people qualified to make decisions in an individual child’s best interests are not the politicians and bureaucrats and social engineers and union agitators, but the family who know her and love her, and who are responsible for guiding her to maturity.

  7. This just in: America decided century before last that we want quality public schools – sort of like the rest of the Western democracies. Poll after poll after poll shows this. Is Brighton Central School “broken and obsolete”? Um, nope. Pittsford? Nope . Rush-Henrietta? Nope. School of the Arts? World of Inquiry? Nope to all of them. No amount of right-wing ideology changes this. No amount of Randian narcissism changes this. Real conservatives (note the small “c”) value culture and institutions – and social covenants.

  8. @Whisper: Sure, the little red schoolhouse may have served its purpose back in the day of little houses on the prairie. But it hardly follows that a broken, obsolete government monopoly is still the best we can do in the 21st Century. (And yes, the system is as broken and obsolete in rich communities as in poor ones.)

  9. @b.d.g., you stated, “The people qualified to make decisions in an individual child’s best interests [are her family].” – and approximately 83% of our American families have concluded that public schools are in their families best interests and act accordingly.

  10. If you’re so sure that a majority of families actually prefer to have their little darlings indoctrinated in government schools, then why not abolish the monopoly and introduce a level playing field with free and fair competition? After all, you’ll still have your 83% market share, right?

    (Don’t worry, it’s a rhetorical question.)

  11. “When you attack public education, you are attacking the mortar that holds the community together. You’re not a conservative; you’re a vandal.” – Garrison Keiller

  12. Oh, the delicious irony of citing a multimillionaire who owes his fortune to corn-pone nostalgia and taxpayer-subsidized media!

    In any case, you can’t vandalize what’s ruined. There’s simply no rational basis to believe that the broken, obsolete 19th-Century model of “public education” is the only one, or the best we can do now.

  13. The free market rewarded Mr. Keiller for his talents.There’s delicious irony there, one supposes. And America’s public schools thrive, much to the dismay of the right wing zealots and privatizers. This is especially true in Monroe County, which for generations have had schools recognized as among the finest in our country.

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